Bullets in .doc/.docx documents always become "^"?

Hello,

This is a problem I've been encountering since the old OpenOffice days:

Whenever I open a .doc or .docx document created with Micro$oft Office, bullet points in it always become "^"s (sans quotes and s).

Does anyone know why??? Is this a bug in the import filter, or something else???

Thanks!

Hi :)
That sounds very unusual.  There is a nice little selection of different bullet-points and i've not noticed any that look like that.  Have you tried renaming your User Profile? 

Can you get someone with MS Office to send a document with various different types of bullet points to see if it's just images used as bullet opints that have that effect?  The standard MS bullet points look about the same in OOo/LO as they do in MS Office afaik. 

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: avamk <[hidden email]>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Bullets in .doc/.docx documents always become "^"?
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Date: Wednesday, 11 April, 2012, 7:14

Hello,

This is a problem I've been encountering since the old OpenOffice days:

Whenever I open a .doc or .docx document created with Micro$oft Office, bullet points in it always become "^"s (sans quotes and s).

Does anyone know why??? Is this a bug in the import filter, or something else???

Thanks!

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Hello,

Thanks for your quick reply. I have attached a sample .docx file exhibiting the symptom I described. I used the default bullet points/lists settings in Micro$oft Word 2010 to create this file.

As you can see, when you open the file in LibreOffice Writer, the bullet points be come "^"s.

Would you be able to see what's wrong here?

Thank you so much!bullets_test.docx

Hi :(
Weird, the bullets and numbers looked completely normal to me

bullets-working-2012-04-11.gif

Ubuntu 10.04 (i think, although i'm getting increasingly sceptical so maybe 11.04) with LibreOffice 3.4.6.
Regards from
Tom :)

avamk:

I downloaded and opened that file with Libre Ofice 3.3.4 (on Ubuntu
11.10), and the bullets and the numbers are presented correctly.




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This is quite strange, indeed.

I created another test document in Micro$oft Word with the Times New Roman font (see attached bullets_test_2.docx, and the bullets showed up correctly in LibreOffice 3.5.2. So at this point I was thinking it is just a font issue.

However, I opened another document, a meeting agenda for teaching assistants, that someone sent me (sample_bullets.docx). This was also using the Times New Roman font, but the bullets appeared as "^"s again!!!

Can anyone confirm this? Is there anyway to see what is different between the bullets in these two documents?
bullets_test_2.docx
sample_bullets.docx

Thanks to Brian Barker, using a replacement table to replace the Symbol font with the OpenSymbol font worked to make the bullet points correctly.

I don't mean to be too inquisitive, but does someone know why and how this is the solution, and could OpenSymbol be made the default so that compatibility with Word documents will be improved?

Thanks!

At 21:19 13/04/2012 -0700, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote:
>Thanks to Brian Barker, using a replacement table to replace the
>Symbol font with the OpenSymbol font worked to make the bullet
>points correctly.

Since this worked, it may be helpful to others to have it articulated:
o Go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Fonts.
o Tick "Apply replacement table".
o Enter "Symbol" and "OpenSymbol".

>I don't mean to be too inquisitive, but does someone know why and
>how this is the solution, ...

I'm guessing, but is it possible that the Symbol font in the
generating system (wherever it comes from) has the bullets in a
different place from where they are in the version of Symbol you have
- but that OpenSymbol has them in the same place?  Is it a Unicode
issue?  Remember that word processor documents (generally) carry font
names, not the fonts themselves.

>... and could OpenSymbol be made the default so that compatibility
>with Word documents will be improved?

I cannot know whether that would generally be an improvement.  But
it's what you have arranged by this setting, of course.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Hi :)
So when the bullet-points looked fine on my system it was because i had the proprietary 'MS' fonts installed?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 14/4/12, Brian Barker <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Brian Barker <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bullets in .doc/.docx documents always become "^"?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 14 April, 2012, 5:41

At 21:19 13/04/2012 -0700, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote:
> Thanks to Brian Barker, using a replacement table to replace the Symbol font with the OpenSymbol font worked to make the bullet points correctly.

Since this worked, it may be helpful to others to have it articulated:
o Go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Fonts.
o Tick "Apply replacement table".
o Enter "Symbol" and "OpenSymbol".

> I don't mean to be too inquisitive, but does someone know why and how this is the solution, ...

I'm guessing, but is it possible that the Symbol font in the generating system (wherever it comes from) has the bullets in a different place from where they are in the version of Symbol you have - but that OpenSymbol has them in the same place?  Is it a Unicode issue?  Remember that word processor documents (generally) carry font names, not the fonts themselves.

> ... and could OpenSymbol be made the default so that compatibility with Word documents will be improved?

I cannot know whether that would generally be an improvement.  But it's what you have arranged by this setting, of course.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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