Calc Manual - need for major edit and proofing

 hi

I have spen some time wondring how to put this across without hurting feelings, Imagine me to be a person telling his daughter in law or son in law fondly that the baby needs a bath. Editors and critics are like doctors that are telling relatives of a child that the kid is wonderful and he will be ok - he needs to take these medicines (and sometimes that this in growing toe nail needs minor surgery) I suggest the authors to have a relook. The first 10 pages I read indicate a thorough bath for the baby.

regard

kedarnath jonalagadda b.sc(agri), m.sc(genetics)1970
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kedarnath wrote:
>   hi
>
> I have spen some time wondring how to put this across without hurting feelings, Imagine me to be a person telling his daughter in law or son in law fondly that the baby needs a bath. Editors and critics are like doctors that are telling relatives of a child that the kid is wonderful and he will be ok - he needs to take these medicines (and sometimes that this in growing toe nail needs minor surgery) I suggest the authors to have a relook. The first 10 pages I read indicate a thorough bath for the baby.
>
> regard
>
> kedarnath jonalagadda b.sc(agri), m.sc(genetics)1970
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      Perhaps you could give some specifics even if it is a long list?
And don't forget to include why you have problems with what is written.
      Critics need to be specific. From what you have written, I can see
that you don't like how the Calc Guide is written (or at least the first
10 pages). But I don't know what is wrong nor why.  I doubt that anyone
else will either.

--Dan


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Hi kedarnath
Am 01.07.2012 15:35, schrieb kedarnath:
>   hi
>
> I have spen some time wondring how to put this across without hurting feelings, Imagine me to be a person telling his daughter in law or son in law fondly that the baby needs a bath. Editors and critics are like doctors that are telling relatives of a child that the kid is wonderful and he will be ok - he needs to take these medicines (and sometimes that this in growing toe nail needs minor surgery) I suggest the authors to have a relook. The first 10 pages I read indicate a thorough bath for the baby.

Telling that the baby needs some washing won't make it happen. Only
doing it will make it.

So don't throw the baby out with the bath water but take the pages and
change it in the right way or tell where it is the need for cleaning.

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k-j



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hi,
I have been very specific and attached PDF first 10 pages split off from the entire downloaded file. Kindly use ADOBE Reader or Foxit Reader - Click on Comments Tab for a list of comments / edits markups made be me.


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 hi

I have spen some time wondring how to put this across without hurting feelings, Imagine me to be a person telling his daughter in law or son in law fondly that the baby needs a bath. Editors and critics are like doctors that are telling relatives of a child that the kid is wonderful and he will be ok - he needs to take these medicines (and sometimes that this in growing toe nail needs minor surgery) I suggest the authors to have a relook. The first 10 pages I read indicate a thorough bath for the baby.

regard

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hi,
I have been very specific and attached PDF first 10 pages split off from the entire downloaded file. Kindly use ADOBE Reader or Foxit Reader - Click on Comments Tab for a list of comments / edits markups made be me.


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 hi

I have spen some time wondring how to put this across without hurting feelings, Imagine me to be a person telling his daughter in law or son in law fondly that the baby needs a bath. Editors and critics are like doctors that are telling relatives of a child that the kid is wonderful and he will be ok - he needs to take these medicines (and sometimes that this in growing toe nail needs minor surgery) I suggest the authors to have a relook. The first 10 pages I read indicate a thorough bath for the baby.

regard

kedarnath jonalagadda b.sc(agri), m.sc(genetics)1970
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kedarnath wrote:       Attachments are stripped on this mailing list, so no one has
received your PDF. You need to upload your comments to the web and send
us the URL before we will be able to read it.

--Dan


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Hi Dan,
 
Can you send me URL for uploading the PDF file with corrections?
 
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kedarnath wrote:       I have received a copy of the PDF mentioned above. I uploaded it
to the Alfresco website:

http://alfresco.libreoffice.org/share/page/repository#filter=path|%2FEnglish%2FDocumentation%2FCalc%2520Guide%2FDraft&page=1

      It is in the draft folder for the Calc Guide in case this link
does not work. I wasn't sure where to put it. If it should be somewhere
else, then let us know and to where it has been moved.

--Dan


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Thanks, Dan. I'll pick up a copy later today and have a look. It's unlikely to affect this edition of the book (too late now for major revisions), but will be considered for the next edition.

I will say to the OP that we've been looking for someone to take over and rewrite the Calc Guide, among others, but no one has come forward to do this. An unfortunate fact of life.

Jean

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I've now had a look at the suggestions. None are anything of
substance, as far as I can tell. A few look like useful content
improvements, however some (for example, the removal of "the" in
several places) are not idiomatic English (either US or UK) and
therefore are not an improvement. One suggestion ("Anyone that") is
incorrect grammar ("Anyone who" is correct).

I welcome helpful and grammatically correct editorial suggestions, and
-- better still -- suggestions for substantive improvement in the
content. Unfortunately, most of what's here doesn't fall into either
category. Hardly worthy of the initial comment about it needing "a
thorough bath".

--Jean


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 hi jean weber and everybody,

1. I read the first 10 pages and said major edit and proofing was needed. A good book deserves the best cover is my opinion on the first 10 pages.

I did not see any mention of the sheer power of Calc sitting in our computers waiting to be used by anybody. kids or doctors or scientists or common people anywhere. If they are not using spreadsheet software they should. It is a tool to learn, a tool to teach, a tool to do simple jobs or the most complex. And you need not be a highly qualified in maths or programming to program! Spreadsheets can process numbers, text, pictures, graphics, Art and sounds too. I have used Calc to hold pictures of text and OCR text and Land maps and contour surveys.

In counting occurrence of specific character x in cell there was a brilliant solution given by a member of OOo community forum.

LEN(cell)-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(cell;"x";""))

I am using a variant in cells R16:R(many) =LEN(S16)-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(S16;$R$14;"")).. where R14 is cell for input of any character. My text is from S16 to S(many). R16 copied down to R(many)... Now (Space) character when input in R14, gives me a count of the words in each cell of my text!

2. I am going through the other pages, the technical area and pictures are well done and appealing (what I am reading now).  .





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----- Original Message -----From: Jean Weber <[hidden email]>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>Cc: Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:25 AMSubject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fw: Calc Manual - need for major edit and proofingThanks, Dan. I'll pick up a copy later today and have a look. It's unlikely to affect this edition of the book (too late now for major revisions), but will be considered for the next edition.I will say to the OP that we've been looking for someone to take over and rewrite the Calc Guide, among others, but no one has come forward to do this. An unfortunate fact of life.JeanOn 02/07/2012, at 4:23, Dan <[hidden email]> wrote:> kedarnath wrote:>> hi,>> I have been very specific and attached PDF first 10 pages split off from the entire downloaded file. Kindly use ADOBE Reader or Foxit Reader - Click on Comments Tab for a list of comments / edits markups made be me.>> >> >>
 kedarnath jonnalagadda>> ----------------------------------------------------------------->> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----->> From: kedarnath <[hidden email]>>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>>> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 7:05 PM>> Subject: Calc Manual - need for major edit and proofing>> >>  hi>> >> I have spen some time wondring how to put this across without hurting feelings, Imagine me to be a person telling his daughter in law or son in law fondly that the baby needs a bath. Editors and critics are like doctors that are telling relatives of a child that the kid is wonderful and he will be ok - he needs to take these medicines (and sometimes that this in growing toe nail needs minor surgery) I suggest the authors to have a relook. The first 10 pages I read indicate a thorough bath for the baby.>> >> regard>> >> kedarnath jonalagadda b.sc(agri), m.sc(genetics)1970>>
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------>    I have received a copy of the PDF mentioned above. I uploaded it to the Alfresco website:> > http://alfresco.libreoffice.org/share/page/repository#filter=path|%2FEnglish%2FDocumentation%2FCalc%2520Guide%2FDraft&page=1> >    It is in the draft folder for the Calc Guide in case this link does not work. I wasn't sure where to put it. If it should be somewhere else, then let us know and to where it has been moved.> > --Dan> > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [hidden email]> Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted> -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to
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Those sorts of comments will be very welcome. Looking forward to them.
--Jean

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