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Morning everyone.

I would like to start a contact list for everyone.  I thought about putting
something on the Wiki, but I really wanted to get everyone's email address,
location, and areas of expertize, as well as hobbies that might be useful to
our efforts, so I think I would rather have that information offline for
everyone.

All those that would be willing to share that information if you could email
it to me at [hidden email]  I would really appreciate it.

I am going to create seperate list for those in the US, and those in
Canada.  We can all share this information if no one has any objections.

If you speak an additional language other than english I would like to know
about that as well.

I am also looking into finding other ways for us to colaborate on things,
and would like your input on that as well.


Thanks

James Walker

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On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 09:51 -0400, James Walker wrote:

> Morning everyone.
>
> I would like to start a contact list for everyone.  I thought about putting
> something on the Wiki, but I really wanted to get everyone's email address,
> location, and areas of expertize, as well as hobbies that might be useful to
> our efforts, so I think I would rather have that information offline for
> everyone.
>
> All those that would be willing to share that information if you could email
> it to me at [hidden email]  I would really appreciate it.
>
> I am going to create seperate list for those in the US, and those in
> Canada.  We can all share this information if no one has any objections.
>
> If you speak an additional language other than english I would like to know
> about that as well.
>
> I am also looking into finding other ways for us to colaborate on things,
> and would like your input on that as well.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> James Walker

Hello James,

Overall I am in agreement with you thoughts.

Let me offer a one ideas here.

Getting to knew each other, who we are

A way to introduce to ourselves:
- setup your USER page at the TDF wiki ASAP
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew

I would plain out ask that everyone wanting to work on marketing get
your page up, then it's much easier to maintain another, North American
Marketing Team, page that acts as an type of roster. Details for any
individual is then a simple link back to your page. (in mediawiki syntax
that is a macro - when editing a page you just sign it with ~~~ the wiki
engine drops in a link back your personal user page)

If you are not familiar with mediawiki then that is even more reason to
go setup your page. The wiki is one of the major tools we have at our
disposal - if your wanting to work on the marketing functions here, IMO,
you need (must) have at least a cursory familiarity with setting up a
quick page. Your personal page is a great place to feel free to break it
and fix it, the only way to feel comfortable is setting up your first
page.

If you just don't know how to start on that feel free to drop me a
direct line or start a new topic in the list here.

more in a just a bit, but I'll just ask how folks feel about that idea
first? Anyone think this is too much?

Thanks

Drew






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Le 2010-10-22 09:51, James Walker a écrit :

> Morning everyone.
>
> I would like to start a contact list for everyone.  I thought about putting
> something on the Wiki, but I really wanted to get everyone's email address,
> location, and areas of expertize, as well as hobbies that might be useful to
> our efforts, so I think I would rather have that information offline for
> everyone.
>
> All those that would be willing to share that information if you could email
> it to me at [hidden email]  I would really appreciate it.
>
> I am going to create seperate list for those in the US, and those in
> Canada.  We can all share this information if no one has any objections.
>
> If you speak an additional language other than english I would like to know
> about that as well.
>
> I am also looking into finding other ways for us to colaborate on things,
> and would like your input on that as well.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> James Walker
>
Hi James

I would be more in favour of gaining control of the Marketing Wiki and
doing this in public. We need to be transparent and I would think that
the SC (LibO Streeting Committee) would like to track our effort without
having to go look for it. Perhaps we could model ourselves on the Magiea
Marketing Wiki model where I also participate
http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=TeamTalk  I find this
format very efficient, transparent for everyone and it sends the message
of commitment from the marketing team as well as creating a "team
spirit" evironment.

We would also divide the page up into US (at the top) and Canada (junior
partner) at the bottom. We should also perhaps at some point decide on a
spokesperson for each group for when we publish/announce campaigns,
reports etc.

Let's form the groups infrastructure first and then organise resources
and campaigns later.

Note: a person in the group should also be given the admin right to
"lock-down" pages for voting or "freezing" purposes.

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Le 2010-10-22 10:32, Drew Jensen a écrit :

> On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 09:51 -0400, James Walker wrote:
>> Morning everyone.
>>
>> I would like to start a contact list for everyone.  I thought about putting
>> something on the Wiki, but I really wanted to get everyone's email address,
>> location, and areas of expertize, as well as hobbies that might be useful to
>> our efforts, so I think I would rather have that information offline for
>> everyone.
>>
>> All those that would be willing to share that information if you could email
>> it to me at [hidden email]  I would really appreciate it.
>>
>> I am going to create seperate list for those in the US, and those in
>> Canada.  We can all share this information if no one has any objections.
>>
>> If you speak an additional language other than english I would like to know
>> about that as well.
>>
>> I am also looking into finding other ways for us to colaborate on things,
>> and would like your input on that as well.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> James Walker
> Hello James,
>
> Overall I am in agreement with you thoughts.
>
> Let me offer a one ideas here.
>
> Getting to knew each other, who we are
>
> A way to introduce to ourselves:
> - setup your USER page at the TDF wiki ASAP
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew
>
> I would plain out ask that everyone wanting to work on marketing get
> your page up, then it's much easier to maintain another, North American
> Marketing Team, page that acts as an type of roster. Details for any
> individual is then a simple link back to your page. (in mediawiki syntax
> that is a macro - when editing a page you just sign it with ~~~ the wiki
> engine drops in a link back your personal user page)
>
> If you are not familiar with mediawiki then that is even more reason to
> go setup your page. The wiki is one of the major tools we have at our
> disposal - if your wanting to work on the marketing functions here, IMO,
> you need (must) have at least a cursory familiarity with setting up a
> quick page. Your personal page is a great place to feel free to break it
> and fix it, the only way to feel comfortable is setting up your first
> page.
>
> If you just don't know how to start on that feel free to drop me a
> direct line or start a new topic in the list here.
>
> more in a just a bit, but I'll just ask how folks feel about that idea
> first? Anyone think this is too much?
>
> Thanks
>
> Drew
Hi Drew:

Sorry,

Your message arrived on Gmane after I mailed my response. Does the LibO
(former OOo) have a cultural preference for this?

Either system works for me.

Cheers

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I am not opposed to a Wiki, my only concern was I know a lot of people do
not like their email address out there for the public.

I do not mind at all. My only concern was the amount of information that
would be out there.

I will work on my own Wiki page.

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On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 10:53 -0400, James Walker wrote:
> I am not opposed to a Wiki, my only concern was I know a lot of people do
> not like their email address out there for the public.
>
> I do not mind at all. My only concern was the amount of information that
> would be out there.
>
> I will work on my own Wiki page.
>

My opinion on that is that it's your page - so put what you think is
important, and don't add anything you don't want. I should be explicit -
I'm not holding up what I put there as a template, just saying put
something together.

//drew



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Hi Marc,

>
> Your message arrived on Gmane after I mailed my response. Does the LibO
> (former OOo) have a cultural preference for this?
>
> Either system works for me.


Right, I don't see an either or situation here - thin of your pages as
just that - as I said in the other email I do see a page, similar in
nature, to the one your pointed out, I like that
- so not, either or

I see your personal page there as putting the corner stones first - I
think that is how I could best put it.

//drew



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>
> Right, I don't see an either or situation here - thin of your pages as
> just that - as I said in the other email I do see a page, similar in
> nature, to the one your pointed out, I like that
> - so not, either or
>
> I see your personal page there as putting the corner stones first - I
> think that is how I could best put it.
>
> //drew
>
>
>
>
>
Okay, so what we can do is create like a US/CAN Marketing page on the Wiki
with links to other pages that have things like a to do list.

We can also create a link to a members list, and each of the members on that
page would have a link to a user page with there information on it.

That is what I see you haveing in mind.

I would also like to see a couple of contacts on that main page for people
to get into touch with the people that will be overseeing the US/CAN
marketing teams.

Do we even have anyone set up in that capacity yet.  I would envision at
least a couple from each country to start with for now.

James

ps,  I am looking at would it takes to create these pages, I have only done
a couple things with wikis but I have some free time right now, so off to
learning I go.

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Le 2010-10-22 11:18, James Walker a écrit :

>> Right, I don't see an either or situation here - thin of your pages as
>> just that - as I said in the other email I do see a page, similar in
>> nature, to the one your pointed out, I like that
>> - so not, either or
>>
>> I see your personal page there as putting the corner stones first - I
>> think that is how I could best put it.
>>
>> //drew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Okay, so what we can do is create like a US/CAN Marketing page on the Wiki
> with links to other pages that have things like a to do list.
>
> We can also create a link to a members list, and each of the members on that
> page would have a link to a user page with there information on it.
>
> That is what I see you haveing in mind.
>
> I would also like to see a couple of contacts on that main page for people
> to get into touch with the people that will be overseeing the US/CAN
> marketing teams.
>
> Do we even have anyone set up in that capacity yet.  I would envision at
> least a couple from each country to start with for now.
>
> James
>
> ps,  I am looking at would it takes to create these pages, I have only done
> a couple things with wikis but I have some free time right now, so off to
> learning I go.
>
Hi James and Drew:

Maybe we should just itemize these on the mailist.

Later we could have a Wiki page with itemized process for new Marketing
members to complete before jumping into the frey.

So the itemized list would look so far like this (with my suggestions):

1. Everyone should fill in you own Wiki page for identification (an
example: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew)
2. Create a US/Canada Marketing page -- please always put US in
prominence and Canada in a secondary position. This page should have a
welcoming message from both US/Canada
3. Create a "LibO US/CA Members" page. Should be divided up US and CA.
Make a list of the members with a link to the the members' personal page.
4. ON the "LibO US/CA Members" page, (as James suggested) we will need
contacts (spokesperson(s) for each group) -- this could be premature, if
we are going to vote or by acclamation
5. Set up a "Resources" page (no need to mix US or Can). These would be
resources specifically tailored for the US or CA markets -- I suspect
(as there should be) there will be a main "Resources" page on the
"Marketing" Wiki. We will need also a link to this page.
6. Set up a "Projects" page
7. Set up an "Education" page (I am interested in developing this)
8. Set up other pages pertinent to our US/CA marketing group.

How does this sound?

Marc

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In looking at the current Marketing Page on the Wiki, I am not sure how to
go about setting up a US/CAN specific link to take us to a good starting
point.  I would think that at some point there would be multiple
Region/Language Marketing groups that we should link to from the main
Marketing Wiki page.  I think we have a good idea on some things to start
with, just don't want to start creating subpages if there is a bigger plan
in place that TDF wants to implement.

I know other people are monitoring this list, is there any objection to
linking from the main marketing Wiki page to a US/CAN page?

James



On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Marc Paré <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 2010-10-22 11:18, James Walker a écrit :
>
>  Right, I don't see an either or situation here - thin of your pages as
>>> just that - as I said in the other email I do see a page, similar in
>>> nature, to the one your pointed out, I like that
>>> - so not, either or
>>>
>>> I see your personal page there as putting the corner stones first - I
>>> think that is how I could best put it.
>>>
>>> //drew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so what we can do is create like a US/CAN Marketing page on the
>> Wiki
>> with links to other pages that have things like a to do list.
>>
>> We can also create a link to a members list, and each of the members on
>> that
>> page would have a link to a user page with there information on it.
>>
>> That is what I see you haveing in mind.
>>
>> I would also like to see a couple of contacts on that main page for people
>> to get into touch with the people that will be overseeing the US/CAN
>> marketing teams.
>>
>> Do we even have anyone set up in that capacity yet.  I would envision at
>> least a couple from each country to start with for now.
>>
>> James
>>
>> ps,  I am looking at would it takes to create these pages, I have only
>> done
>> a couple things with wikis but I have some free time right now, so off to
>> learning I go.
>>
>> Hi James and Drew:
>
> Maybe we should just itemize these on the mailist.
>
> Later we could have a Wiki page with itemized process for new Marketing
> members to complete before jumping into the frey.
>
> So the itemized list would look so far like this (with my suggestions):
>
> 1. Everyone should fill in you own Wiki page for identification (an
> example: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew)
> 2. Create a US/Canada Marketing page -- please always put US in prominence
> and Canada in a secondary position. This page should have a welcoming
> message from both US/Canada
> 3. Create a "LibO US/CA Members" page. Should be divided up US and CA. Make
> a list of the members with a link to the the members' personal page.
> 4. ON the "LibO US/CA Members" page, (as James suggested) we will need
> contacts (spokesperson(s) for each group) -- this could be premature, if we
> are going to vote or by acclamation
> 5. Set up a "Resources" page (no need to mix US or Can). These would be
> resources specifically tailored for the US or CA markets -- I suspect (as
> there should be) there will be a main "Resources" page on the "Marketing"
> Wiki. We will need also a link to this page.
> 6. Set up a "Projects" page
> 7. Set up an "Education" page (I am interested in developing this)
> 8. Set up other pages pertinent to our US/CA marketing group.
>
> How does this sound?
>
>
> Marc
>
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>
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On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 12:26 -0400, James Walker wrote:

> In looking at the current Marketing Page on the Wiki, I am not sure how to
> go about setting up a US/CAN specific link to take us to a good starting
> point.  I would think that at some point there would be multiple
> Region/Language Marketing groups that we should link to from the main
> Marketing Wiki page.  I think we have a good idea on some things to start
> with, just don't want to start creating subpages if there is a bigger plan
> in place that TDF wants to implement.
>
> I know other people are monitoring this list, is there any objection to
> linking from the main marketing Wiki page to a US/CAN page?
>
> James
>


I agree that we need to coordinate this top page structure with the full
TDF - another reason that I asked folks to, for today, focus on your
personal pages.

Let's toss this onto the full marketing list - James I assume you don't
mind - and I would think by the end the day we should have an answer and
someone can set the page(s) up...sound good?

//drew


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On Oct 22, 2010, at 12:26 PM, James Walker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> In looking at the current Marketing Page on the Wiki, I am not sure how to
> go about setting up a US/CAN specific link to take us to a good starting
> point.  I would think that at some point there would be multiple
> Region/Language Marketing groups that we should link to from the main
> Marketing Wiki page.  I think we have a good idea on some things to start
> with, just don't want to start creating subpages if there is a bigger plan
> in place that TDF wants to implement.
>
> I know other people are monitoring this list, is there any objection to
> linking from the main marketing Wiki page to a US/CAN page?

We should be able to easily move the page, so even if it's not correct initially, it should not be a problem.

I'll send my contact info and read this full thread when I'm back at my computer, I think it's a great idea.

Ben

>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Marc Paré <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Le 2010-10-22 11:18, James Walker a écrit :
>>
>> Right, I don't see an either or situation here - thin of your pages as
>>>> just that - as I said in the other email I do see a page, similar in
>>>> nature, to the one your pointed out, I like that
>>>> - so not, either or
>>>>
>>>> I see your personal page there as putting the corner stones first - I
>>>> think that is how I could best put it.
>>>>
>>>> //drew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so what we can do is create like a US/CAN Marketing page on the
>>> Wiki
>>> with links to other pages that have things like a to do list.
>>>
>>> We can also create a link to a members list, and each of the members on
>>> that
>>> page would have a link to a user page with there information on it.
>>>
>>> That is what I see you haveing in mind.
>>>
>>> I would also like to see a couple of contacts on that main page for people
>>> to get into touch with the people that will be overseeing the US/CAN
>>> marketing teams.
>>>
>>> Do we even have anyone set up in that capacity yet.  I would envision at
>>> least a couple from each country to start with for now.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> ps,  I am looking at would it takes to create these pages, I have only
>>> done
>>> a couple things with wikis but I have some free time right now, so off to
>>> learning I go.
>>>
>>> Hi James and Drew:
>>
>> Maybe we should just itemize these on the mailist.
>>
>> Later we could have a Wiki page with itemized process for new Marketing
>> members to complete before jumping into the frey.
>>
>> So the itemized list would look so far like this (with my suggestions):
>>
>> 1. Everyone should fill in you own Wiki page for identification (an
>> example: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew)
>> 2. Create a US/Canada Marketing page -- please always put US in prominence
>> and Canada in a secondary position. This page should have a welcoming
>> message from both US/Canada
>> 3. Create a "LibO US/CA Members" page. Should be divided up US and CA. Make
>> a list of the members with a link to the the members' personal page.
>> 4. ON the "LibO US/CA Members" page, (as James suggested) we will need
>> contacts (spokesperson(s) for each group) -- this could be premature, if we
>> are going to vote or by acclamation
>> 5. Set up a "Resources" page (no need to mix US or Can). These would be
>> resources specifically tailored for the US or CA markets -- I suspect (as
>> there should be) there will be a main "Resources" page on the "Marketing"
>> Wiki. We will need also a link to this page.
>> 6. Set up a "Projects" page
>> 7. Set up an "Education" page (I am interested in developing this)
>> 8. Set up other pages pertinent to our US/CA marketing group.
>>
>> How does this sound?
>>
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.parEntreprise.com <http://www.parentreprise.com/>
>>
>>
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Drew Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 12:26 -0400, James Walker wrote:
> > In looking at the current Marketing Page on the Wiki, I am not sure how
> to
> > go about setting up a US/CAN specific link to take us to a good starting
> > point.  I would think that at some point there would be multiple
> > Region/Language Marketing groups that we should link to from the main
> > Marketing Wiki page.  I think we have a good idea on some things to start
> > with, just don't want to start creating subpages if there is a bigger
> plan
> > in place that TDF wants to implement.
> >
> > I know other people are monitoring this list, is there any objection to
> > linking from the main marketing Wiki page to a US/CAN page?
> >
> > James
> >
>
>
> I agree that we need to coordinate this top page structure with the full
> TDF - another reason that I asked folks to, for today, focus on your
> personal pages.
>
> Let's toss this onto the full marketing list - James I assume you don't
> mind - and I would think by the end the day we should have an answer and
> someone can set the page(s) up...sound good?
>
> //drew
>
>
> --
>
I have no objection what so ever.  I just would like to see something up,  I
think we have a lot of great ideas coming from all this and I think some are
ideas that other groups can use too.  Maybe it can turn into a template for
other groups.

I would have to say I have seen more movement with Marketing in the last
week, then I have in a long time with OOo.  It is very nice to see.

James Walker

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Le 2010-10-22 12:49, James Walker a écrit :

>
> I have no objection what so ever.  I just would like to see something up,  I
> think we have a lot of great ideas coming from all this and I think some are
> ideas that other groups can use too.  Maybe it can turn into a template for
> other groups.
>
> I would have to say I have seen more movement with Marketing in the last
> week, then I have in a long time with OOo.  It is very nice to see.
>
> James Walker
Thanks James. All of this sounds good to me.

Also, many thanks for your comments on our activity. Hope it is all for
the better of the LibO suite.

Cheers

Marc


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Le 2010-10-22 10:32, Drew Jensen a écrit :

> Hello James,
>
> Overall I am in agreement with you thoughts.
>
> Let me offer a one ideas here.
>
> Getting to knew each other, who we are
>
> A way to introduce to ourselves:
> - setup your USER page at the TDF wiki ASAP
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew
>
> I would plain out ask that everyone wanting to work on marketing get
> your page up, then it's much easier to maintain another, North American
> Marketing Team, page that acts as an type of roster. Details for any
> individual is then a simple link back to your page. (in mediawiki syntax
> that is a macro - when editing a page you just sign it with ~~~ the wiki
> engine drops in a link back your personal user page)
>
> If you are not familiar with mediawiki then that is even more reason to
> go setup your page. The wiki is one of the major tools we have at our
> disposal - if your wanting to work on the marketing functions here, IMO,
> you need (must) have at least a cursory familiarity with setting up a
> quick page. Your personal page is a great place to feel free to break it
> and fix it, the only way to feel comfortable is setting up your first
> page.
>
> If you just don't know how to start on that feel free to drop me a
> direct line or start a new topic in the list here.
>
> more in a just a bit, but I'll just ask how folks feel about that idea
> first? Anyone think this is too much?
>
> Thanks
>
> Drew

For those of you who are not used to setting up pages in MediaWiki, for
your personal page, here is an easy way of creating one.  Note that I am
new to the wiki world.

* go to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org
* upper-right hand corner, create an account if you have not. Log in.
* go to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:YourNameHere
* choose "edit this page" from the line "There is currently no text in
this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the
related logs, or edit this page. "
* add the information that you would like to include

The rest is, well, pretty easy.

You can see my Wiki page here:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MarcPare

I'll add my photo soon. My wife says that I need a shave. Doh!

Cheers

Marc



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 For those of you who are not used to setting up pages in MediaWiki, for

> your personal page, here is an easy way of creating one.  Note that I am new
> to the wiki world.
>
> * go to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org
> * upper-right hand corner, create an account if you have not. Log in.
> * go to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:YourNameHere
> * choose "edit this page" from the line "There is currently no text in this
> page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related
> logs, or edit this page. "
> * add the information that you would like to include
>
> The rest is, well, pretty easy.
>
> You can see my Wiki page here:
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MarcPare
>
> I'll add my photo soon. My wife says that I need a shave. Doh!
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> I started a page, nothing really in it yet, but wanted to start with
something, It might be Monday before I get a lot of information on it.

James

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