Draft Conference PR

Hello,

I am unfortunately in a rush already, travelling through Germany for TDF
and LibreOffice, so this comes in rather late. I plan to send it out
within the next hours if there are no objections, the latest then by
tomorrow. So, feedback is welcome! ;)

Florian


LibreOffice Conference supported by the German Federal Ministries of the
Interior and of Economics and Technology

Three days in Berlin focused on LibreOffice, open standards and
interoperability
Call for papers is open until 15th August

Berlin, 20th June 2012. Today the LibreOffice project announces details
of the LibreOffice Conference, taking place in Berlin from 17th-19th
October. "Open standards, interoperability and free software are
becoming more and more important in the political and public discourse,
and will play a central role in this year's conference program," says
Jacqueline Rahemipour, from the organizing association Freies Office
Deutschland e.V. and member of the organizing committee.

In addition, the project announced that the Call for Papers is
immediately open until 15th August. Users and developers are invited to
submit papers fitting one of the topics listed below. The submissions
will then be reviewed by a committee, and the final program will be made
available in early September. Topics for this year are:

- Open Document Format (ODF) Plugfest
- Interoperability
- LibreOffice - Development and future: Technology, API, Extensions
- Community-Track: Localization, Documentation, etc.
- Best Practice und Migration: Certification and Support

"The decision to hold this years conference in Berlin was made by an
overwhelming majority of the community. Following the founding of The
Document Foundation in February, we are proud to also have the
LibreOffice Conference come to Berlin. This is a major event, not only
for those involved in the project, but also for the everyone interested
in the use of free office software and open standards", explains Florian
Effenberger, Chairman of the Board at The Document Foundation.

Further details regarding the Call for Papers can be found on the
Conference website.


Links

LibreOffice Conference: http://conference.libreoffice.org
Freies Office Deutschland e.V.: http://www.frodev.org
The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org


Media Contacts

The Document Foundation
Florian Effenberger
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Phone: +49 8341 99660880
Mobile: +49 151 14424108

Freies Office Deutschland e.V.
Jacqueline Rahemipour
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Hi Florian,

If we are going to publish this again, some suggested corrections:

Le 2012-06-20 12:53, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
(*** should this be listed on the LiboCon site somewhere? I have added
it to the LiboCon landing page.***)

>
> Three days in Berlin focused on LibreOffice, open standards and
> interoperability
> Call for papers is open until 15th August
>
> Berlin, 20th June 2012. Today, the LibreOffice project announces details

(*** added a comma after Today, ***)

*** Should this be: "Best Practices and Migration: Certification and
Support" <-- "Practices"; "and" ***

>
> "The decision to hold this years conference in Berlin was made by an

(*** "The decision to hold this year's conference in Berlin was made by
an  <-- added an apostrophe to "year's" ***)

Cheers,

Marc


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RE: This is a major event, not only
for those involved in the project, but also for the everyone interested
in the use of free office software and open standards", explains Florian
Effenberger, Chairman of the Board at The Document Foundation.

I suggest these corrections:  Change "but also for the everyone" to: but
also for everyone
Change "explains Florian" to:  explained Florian
Change "at the Document Foundation" to: of The Document Foundation.




On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Marc Paré <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Florian,
>
> If we are going to publish this again, some suggested corrections:
>
>

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Florian,

Could we please take out the "ODF plugfest" mention and replace it by ODF
Track? It seems that IBM is vehemently refusing to allow the official ODF
Plugfest to occur at the LibreOffice Conference .
We of course would not want to embarrass these gentlemen.

Thanks,
Charles.

2012/6/25 David Batterson <[hidden email]>

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Florian,
>
> Could we please take out the "ODF plugfest" mention and replace it by ODF
> Track? It seems that IBM is vehemently refusing to allow the official ODF
> Plugfest to occur at the LibreOffice Conference.


Wow, really? Do they have an excuse... sorry, reason?

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Hi Charles, can you please forward the messages of IBM employees and supporters? I am collecting evidence of the anti TDF activity happening since 2011, for a nice ebook which will tell a lot about some self-appointed free software advocates.

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I suppose they have a strategy, not an excuse. IBM and other self-appointed free software advocates would like to kill TDF and LibreOffice, and this is just another step forward.

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Hello,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2012-06-25 08:23:
> Could we please take out the "ODF plugfest" mention and replace it by ODF
> Track? It seems that IBM is vehemently refusing to allow the official ODF
> Plugfest to occur at the LibreOffice Conference .
> We of course would not want to embarrass these gentlemen.

interesting to hear that any party has explicit rights to an ODF
plugfest, but no further comment, everyone should make up their own image.

I'll Cc Andreas to attach the track description on the website accordingly.

Florian

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Hi Charles,

Le 2012-06-25 02:23, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
I've replaced it on the LiboCon.org site[1].

Cheers,

Marc

http://conference.libreoffice.org/call-for-paper



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Le lundi 25 juin 2012 à 17:23 +1000, Jean Weber a écrit :

Their reason is that "in order to avoid any friction, ODF plugfests
should take place in neutral venues, for instance not in LibreOffice
Conference or AOO conferences". The problem is of course that there has
been so far zero AOO conference, and already one LibreOffice Conference.
I don't see why it's bad to have an ODF PLugfest at the LibreOffice
conference or at any AOO conference, or even KDE Summit, for that
matter. There are multiple implementations of ODF out there, and it's an
advantage, not a problem. But the "neutrality" argument is always pushed
in such a way that TDF is the culprit, and I'm getting tired of that.

I am very much in favor to keep our ODF Track without the ODF Plugfest
tagging on it, and in fact I think that instead of a "track" we should
turn it into a specific hackfest on  ODF, where everyone (I mean,
*everyone*) would be invited to join. What do others think?

best,


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Well, some of these emails are posted on private lists but some others
aren't. I'll contact you off list about that.

Best,
Charles.

Le lundi 25 juin 2012 à 10:02 +0200, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

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Le lundi 25 juin 2012 à 04:40 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit :
Thank you a lot Marc,

Charles.

>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
> http://conference.libreoffice.org/call-for-paper
>
>
>


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Charles-H.Schulz wrote:

> I am very much in favor to keep our ODF Track without the ODF Plugfest
> tagging on it, and in fact I think that instead of a "track" we should
> turn it into a specific hackfest on  ODF, where everyone (I mean,
> *everyone*) would be invited to join. What do others think?

I agree on the concept of the hackfest, but OTOH I think it is now time
to put together and make public online a collection of all the written
opinions against TDF and LibreOffice which are coming from a group of
people led by Rob Weir.

I have just been in Ancona at the Italian Free Software Conference, and
all the poeple I have talked to are aware of what is happening at ASF
(and appalled by the fact that ASF is now an IBM proxy).

So far, we have answered FUD with data, with the result that we have had
Apache OO people escalating to the point that they have presented a rant
against TDF/LibreOffice from the LinuxTag podium.

I think that we should just put together raw data (screeshots) without
comments. Other people will be able to connect the dots and develop
their own opinion.

SAOSA (self-appointed open source advocates à la Rob Weir) should start
to be recognized for their peculiarities, and judged by authentic free
software advocates for their [de]merits.

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Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
> Well, some of these emails are posted on private lists but some others
> aren't. I'll contact you off list about that.

Some are on Google Groups, which is not private at all. Found several
nice messages there.

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Le lundi 25 juin 2012 à 12:06 +0200, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
Whaaat?

>
> I think that we should just put together raw data (screeshots) without
> comments. Other people will be able to connect the dots and develop
> their own opinion.
>
> SAOSA (self-appointed open source advocates à la Rob Weir) should start
> to be recognized for their peculiarities, and judged by authentic free
> software advocates for their [de]merits.

Well... I don't want to troll and I think we have more constructive
things to do even with AOO and ASF (which I think is a reputable
foundation and has been a net plus for FOSS).
But  sometimes it's also useful to call FUD what it is; and this
negative energy spread around by a few rotten apples helps no one. If
anything, it shows how immature these apples are.

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Charles-H.Schulz
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I am very much in favor to keep our ODF Track without the ODF Plugfest
> tagging on it, and in fact I think that instead of a "track" we should
> turn it into a specific hackfest on  ODF, where everyone (I mean,
> *everyone*) would be invited to join. What do others think?


This sounds very good to me. A positive and neutral approach, without
a label ("ODF Plugfest") that is associated in anyone's mind with some
specific people.

--Jean

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Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Their reason is that "in order to avoid any friction, ODF plugfests
> should take place in neutral venues, for instance not in LibreOffice
> Conference or AOO conferences".
>
Like the 2009er plugfest at the Orvieto OOoCon? ;)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Charles-H.Schulz
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I think our (TDF/LO) success can be judged on its own merits. What I
don't understand is why some of the SAOSA sound like they are
threatened by our success. As you say, spreading negative energy
around helps no one.

--Jean

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Charles-H.Schulz wrote:

> Whaaat?

Juergen Schmidt at LinuxTag, with several independent eyewitness,
including Intel's Dirk Hohndel, who commented on Google+ on Simon Phipps
post:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/104284466618076664967/posts/RTfpjT47VAp

I have all the relevant screenshots, although I miss Juergen's
presentation (which would be the icing on the cake). We should have
filmed Juergen's presentation.

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Le lundi 25 juin 2012 à 12:17 +0200, Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Their reason is that "in order to avoid any friction, ODF plugfests
> > should take place in neutral venues, for instance not in LibreOffice
> > Conference or AOO conferences".
> >
> Like the 2009er plugfest at the Orvieto OOoCon? ;)

Or worse: the 2012 plugfest at Microsoft HQ in Brussels. But I guess
we're worse than MS Office to the eyes of some.

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