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LibreOffice and OpenERP

Hello all,

I got in touch with Fabrice Henrion (Director of Business Development
Americas at OpenERP) via LinkedIn, and here was his response to two points
the mailing list raised previously

1- Intentions to have an integration with LibreOffice?

> We don't intend to work on a LibreOffice integration because we will
> prefer to invest in a new report engine that will be more usable, more
> integrated, allows drill-down, is embedded in the interface, etc...
> However, I have read in the past certain people were able to get
> LibreOffice to work with OpenERP 6; I didn't try it myself.

2- How to connect OpenERP with LibreOffice in v7?

> You should install the module base_report_designer and follow the steps
> explained during the installation.




Immanuel

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Re: LibreOffice and OpenERP

One question comes to mind, will the new OpenERP report engine output
be Open Document compliant? If so, then opening and/or importing into
LibreOffice should be no problem, right? That might not be true
integration but at least functional interoperablity.

Georges

Le lundi 31 décembre 2012 à 15:21 -0500, Immanuel Giulea a écrit :

> Hello all,
>
> I got in touch with Fabrice Henrion (Director of Business Development
> Americas at OpenERP) via LinkedIn, and here was his response to two points
> the mailing list raised previously
>
> 1- Intentions to have an integration with LibreOffice?
>
> > We don't intend to work on a LibreOffice integration because we will
> > prefer to invest in a new report engine that will be more usable, more
> > integrated, allows drill-down, is embedded in the interface, etc...
> > However, I have read in the past certain people were able to get
> > LibreOffice to work with OpenERP 6; I didn't try it myself.
>
> 2- How to connect OpenERP with LibreOffice in v7?
>
> > You should install the module base_report_designer and follow the steps
> > explained during the installation.
>
>
>
>
> Immanuel
>




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Immanuel Giulea Immanuel Giulea
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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Georges Rodier <[hidden email]>wrote:

> One question comes to mind, will the new OpenERP report engine output
> be Open Document compliant? If so, then opening and/or importing into
> LibreOffice should be no problem, right? That might not be true
> integration but at least functional interoperablity.
>
> Georges
>

Excellent question Georges, I will forward it to Fabrice.

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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Georges Rodier <[hidden email]>wrote:

> One question comes to mind, will the new OpenERP report engine output
> be Open Document compliant? If so, then opening and/or importing into
> LibreOffice should be no problem, right? That might not be true
> integration but at least functional interoperablity.
>
> Georges
>


Answer (direct quote):

> I don't know, we have not started designing it yet. But there is a good
> chance it is compatible with Calc at least.

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Hi :)
Happy new year all!!  Even to those that celebrate the beginning of a new year at other times. 

It's a classic!  They claim that Base is easy to use as a front-end but haven't tried it themselves.  Then they would rather sink tons of their resources into creating their own front-ends and create their own quagmire of bugs.  Many of the problems they encounter as they create their front-end may well have already been avoided or dealt with by the team that has worked on Base.  So, they need to create their own systems for bug-triage, fixing, testing and QA. 

If they put those resources into using Base as their front-end then a LOT of the support and development work would be done by people they didn't even have to pay.  Of course some of the work they did pay for would be used by people that weren't using their product but those people would become more aware of their product as a result. 

>From the looks of what they are doing they are probably going to have to develop something a bit like Writer and the other modules/apps too. 
Regards from
Tom :) 






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> From: Immanuel Giulea <[hidden email]>
>To: Marketing <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>Cc: [hidden email]
>Sent: Monday, 31 December 2012, 20:21
>Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and OpenERP
>
>Hello all,
>
>I got in touch with Fabrice Henrion (Director of Business Development
>Americas at OpenERP) via LinkedIn, and here was his response to two points
>the mailing list raised previously
>
>1- Intentions to have an integration with LibreOffice?
>
>> We don't intend to work on a LibreOffice integration because we will
>> prefer to invest in a new report engine that will be more usable, more
>> integrated, allows drill-down, is embedded in the interface, etc...
>> However, I have read in the past certain people were able to get
>> LibreOffice to work with OpenERP 6; I didn't try it myself.
>
>2- How to connect OpenERP with LibreOffice in v7?
>
>> You should install the module base_report_designer and follow the steps
>> explained during the installation.
>
>
>
>
>Immanuel
>
>
>
>
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Alex Thurgood Alex Thurgood
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On 01/01/2013 12:14 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi Tom,

>

> If they put those resources into using Base as their front-end then a LOT of the support and development work would be done by people they didn't even have to pay.  Of course some of the work they did pay for would be used by people that weren't using their product but those people would become more aware of their product as a result.
>

Sorry, but I have to disagree. There is a good reason for developing
your own reporting module for an ERP, and that is independence. IMO,
this is probably a fairly reasonable business decision, especially in
light of Base's current quirks, and its current dependence on a Java
implementation that is not to everyone's liking. The reporting side of
things in LO depends on either the Pentaho engine (which is a competitor
of OpenERP for BI lest we forget) or the UNO API (which is currently in
a state of flux with previously available interfaces being
removed/unpublished/deprecated, and others being added). No one in any
sane state of business mind would want to delegate resources to a moving
target like that, especially where it is probably easier to use and
manipulate ODF documents instead.

Having used TinyERP before OpenERP came into existence, the Base
extension that one could get hold of to interface with the backend
postgres database required a fair deal of understanding of what went on
under the hood of TinyERP to be able to do anything useful with it. Even
using the ERP workflow engine via Writer documents which were then
converted was a rather untrivial affair. I'm all for having a competent
Report Designer tool within LO, but we already have basic C++ code for
that, which was mainly abandoned during Base2 development to implement a
subset of the Java-based Pentaho BI solution instead (the latter being
far more complete IMO, but a separate tool nonetheless). The result of
that we can see today as a difficult to maintain, difficult to debug,
unstable, continually breaking tool that neither meets user requirements
nor satisfaction, even as the other modules in LO progress.

Just my 2c.


Alex


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