Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-16

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Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-16

Present: Eric, Tomaz, Jay, Samuel, Akshay (JanD)

Organization

 * How to work with both the design team and end users to improve LibreOffice UI/UX (Eric Ficheux)
   + Follows UX improvement requests from a user survey in Nantes
     + 5000 users asked a couple of open questions online
     + 75% are fine with LibO
     + First results indicate design relevant issues regarding printer setup and bullets/numbering
   + Goal is to study, make proposals and implement
     + happy to get the results and to help in analyzing (Heiko)

 * Major release update
   + Q1/18 - next steps?
   + Tender for design; Budget?
     + will ask the tdf team next Monday (Heiko)
   + New branding needed (KJ)
   + Coordinating work with Marketing team (maybe some stuff for conference?) (KJ)
   + we could have started with releasing of 5.0 (Jay)
   + we should hire an experience designer > have a tender (Jay, Heiko)

 * Custom Shapes
   + Had a kick-off today
     + http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/UX-CustomShapes


GSoC projects

 * Ideas do not have code pointers, making things harder for new gsoc students
 * Discussion on Customisation dialog (Akshay)
 * Akshay will do the special character project mentored by Samuel
   + limited scope without OCR part, which would be very pity as OCR would be a killer feature
   + maybe completed by another project
   + https://user-prompt.com/libreoffice-design-session-special-character/

Tickets

 * New default bullets
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106507
   + Not a fan as presented (Stuart c4)
   + Better we align the bullet/numbering workflow/dialog to what has been done with area fill style
     meaning presets, show properties on selection, ability to add own presets... (Heiko c7)
   + Users actually requested the shown dash (Eric)
   + Looking forward to see the design (Jay)

 * Color picker
   + New default color palette https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538
     + no of rows
       + 8 rows http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=131473 (Heiko)
       + 9 rows http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=131574 (Jay)
          + don't like scrolling in that dialog, so rather 9 than 8 rows (opinion Cor)
     + survey runs, results indicate equal acceptance of v2 and v3
     + lets have a talk during the week with Thibaut (Jay)
   + different number of rows based on OS or DE
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106458
     + was a GSoC project two years ago, maybe kendy knows (Samuel)




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Re: Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-16



On 2017/03/16 2:11 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>  * Custom Shapes
>    + Had a kick-off today
>      + http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/UX-CustomShapes

Your survey could perhaps do with some result collapsing,
which means the results look more like:

   Flowchart + BPMN (81 Votes)
   Network + Cisco (57 Votes)
   Electrical + Circuit + Electronic (49 Votes)
   Database + Entity-relationship (47 Votes)
   UML (36 Votes)
   Building site + Civil Engineering (26 Votes)
   Logic (20 Votes)
   Function Structure Diagram (13 Votes)
   Gradient (12 Votes)
   EPC (11 Votes)
   Chronogram (10 Votes)

which also more closely matches my experience with seeing people using programs like Draw and Visio.

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Re: Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-16

That makes definitely sense. The question was asked at https://user-prompt.com/de/libreoffice-design-session-shapes/ (full list there) based on what DIA offers http://dia-installer.de/shapes/index.html.en
I guess many people reply about what they have heard rather than what is needed ;-).

On 03/16/2017 01:23 PM, Noel Grandin wrote:

>
>
> On 2017/03/16 2:11 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>>  * Custom Shapes
>>    + Had a kick-off today
>>      + http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/UX-CustomShapes
>
> Your survey could perhaps do with some result collapsing,
> which means the results look more like:
>
>   Flowchart + BPMN (81 Votes)
>   Network + Cisco (57 Votes)
>   Electrical + Circuit + Electronic (49 Votes)
>   Database + Entity-relationship (47 Votes)
>   UML (36 Votes)
>   Building site + Civil Engineering (26 Votes)
>   Logic (20 Votes)
>   Function Structure Diagram (13 Votes)
>   Gradient (12 Votes)
>   EPC (11 Votes)
>   Chronogram (10 Votes)
>
> which also more closely matches my experience with seeing people using programs like Draw and Visio.

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Re: Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-16

In reply to this post by Noel Grandin-2
If you need some svg templates, that should not be the Problem tell me only
how they have to be prepared.

Am 16.03.2017 14:21 schrieb "Noel Grandin" <[hidden email]>:

>
>
> On 2017/03/16 2:11 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>
>>  * Custom Shapes
>>    + Had a kick-off today
>>      + http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/UX-CustomShapes
>>
>
> Your survey could perhaps do with some result collapsing,
> which means the results look more like:
>
>   Flowchart + BPMN (81 Votes)
>   Network + Cisco (57 Votes)
>   Electrical + Circuit + Electronic (49 Votes)
>   Database + Entity-relationship (47 Votes)
>   UML (36 Votes)
>   Building site + Civil Engineering (26 Votes)
>   Logic (20 Votes)
>   Function Structure Diagram (13 Votes)
>   Gradient (12 Votes)
>   EPC (11 Votes)
>   Chronogram (10 Votes)
>
> which also more closely matches my experience with seeing people using
> programs like Draw and Visio.
>
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