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I would like to convert an RTF document to PDF. I know LO can do this
but what I would like is the ability for LO to do it from the command line. Is this possible? I am running LO 3.4.4 on Windows XP. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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On 23-12-2011 16:44, Scott Jones wrote:
> I would like to convert an RTF document to PDF. I know LO can do this > but what I would like is the ability for LO to do it from the command > line. Is this possible? I am running LO 3.4.4 on Windows XP. > JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line see: http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted -- Luuk -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Miklos Vajna |
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line > see: > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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On 24-12-2011 00:57, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line >> see: >> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted > > Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. > just tested that (with LO3.3), and it should be: libreoffice -headless -convert-to pdf foo.rtf -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Scott Jones |
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Sorry to sound clueless but I couldn't find a program called
libreoffice.exe on my windows XP pc running LO 3.4.4. Do you mean soffice.exe? On Dec 24, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 24-12-2011 00:57, Miklos Vajna wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line >>> see: >>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted >> >> Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. >> > > just tested that (with LO3.3), and it should be: > libreoffice -headless -convert-to pdf foo.rtf > > > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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Hi :)
Ooops, yes. The name soffice is the one to use. It's left over from about a decade ago when the project forked off from Star Office ;) Hopefully at some point the name will be changed but it's not trivial to do so and doesn't really gain much advantage. Apols and regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 24/12/11, Scott Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Scott Jones <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF to PDF Command Line To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Saturday, 24 December, 2011, 14:42 Sorry to sound clueless but I couldn't find a program called libreoffice.exe on my windows XP pc running LO 3.4.4. Do you mean soffice.exe? On Dec 24, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 24-12-2011 00:57, Miklos Vajna wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line >>> see: >>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted >> >> Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. >> > > just tested that (with LO3.3), and it should be: > libreoffice -headless -convert-to pdf foo.rtf > > > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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Hi :)
Hmm, i tried googling about this and some results suggested you might need to use lowriter instead of soffice.exe or libreoffice.exe Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 24/12/11, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Luuk <[hidden email]> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF to PDF Command Line To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, 24 December, 2011, 11:49 On 24-12-2011 00:57, Miklos Vajna wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line >> see: >> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted > > Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. > just tested that (with LO3.3), and it should be: libreoffice -headless -convert-to pdf foo.rtf -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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Why converting one foreign file format to another foreign file format? RTF is a native MS file format, poorly supported by LibreOffice. On Windows XP you have the WordPad and you may also install the MS Word Viewer to read RTF, doc and docx file formats. Then there are several PDF printers for free download. I can recommend FreePDF. On the command line you might be able call the MS application with a printer argument to print out the documents in question to the virtual PDF printer.
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Scott Jones |
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I understand where you're coming from but this is something that needs
to fit into an existing batch process on multiple machines that are creating an RTF from word pad. And portable LO would fit in perfectly in headless mode. Thanks for the input. On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:27 PM, "Andreas Säger" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Why converting one foreign file format to another foreign file format? RTF is > a native MS file format, poorly supported by LibreOffice. On Windows XP you > have the WordPad and you may also install the MS Word Viewer to read RTF, > doc and docx file formats. Then there are several PDF printers for free > download. I can recommend FreePDF. On the command line you might be able > call the MS application with a printer argument to print out the documents > in question to the virtual PDF printer. > > -- > View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RTF-to-PDF-Command-Line-tp3609044p3611188.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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After the Christmas festivities I will give it a try. Thanks for the
guidance. Merry Christmas On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Tom Davies <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi :) > Hmm, i tried googling about this and some results suggested you might need to use > > lowriter > > instead of > > soffice.exe > or > libreoffice.exe > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > --- On Sat, 24/12/11, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: Luuk <[hidden email]> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF to PDF Command Line > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, 24 December, 2011, 11:49 > > On 24-12-2011 00:57, Miklos Vajna wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line >>> see: >>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted >> >> Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. >> > > just tested that (with LO3.3), and it should be: > libreoffice -headless -convert-to pdf foo.rtf > > > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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On 12/24/2011 09:26 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Why converting one foreign file format to another foreign file format? RTF is > a native MS file format, poorly supported by LibreOffice. On Windows XP you > have the WordPad and you may also install the MS Word Viewer to read RTF, > doc and docx file formats. Then there are several PDF printers for free > download. I can recommend FreePDF. On the command line you might be able > call the MS application with a printer argument to print out the documents > in question to the virtual PDF printer. > > -- > View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RTF-to-PDF-Command-Line-tp3609044p3611188.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > Anyway, I'm wondering what the problem actually is. If you just want to print the RTF file, LO ver. 3.4.4 does it perfectly, at least for me. Preserves font, preserves formatting (I receive material that's fully justified, and it maintains that). It appears OK on screen, and then it prints OK. I just tried converting that file to PDF in LO, opened it with Adobe Reader, and printed it. It was OK on screen, and it printed perfectly on my LaserJet. In other words, all the operations were perfectly transparent to the original RTF file, made on a PC with Microsoft (I think--or it could have been made on an older Mac with Microsoft). I am absolutely sure about the MS source, however. I am using Libre 3.4.4 on PCLinuxOs, latest upgraded version, KDE 4.6.5, kernel 2.6.38.8. I don't know what it would do with an image--I don't even know if RTF supports images. But text is no problem. --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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Hi :)
Don't worry. Any time is ok. This thread stays here and you can always create a new one if it's months or years before you get around to it. Rtf can hold images. I just did a quick check. Svg, png, gifs were all fine. I didn't try jpgs. Rtf can't cope with Macros Microsoft promoted Rtf as a long-lasting format that all sorts of programs would use. Apparently there was/is a court-case about it. There were claims that Rtf was too proprietary to the extent that it was difficult for non-MS programs to integrate updates to the format into their programs. So instead of being able to be used properly in all programs Rtf was really limited to MS programs. Crazy huh? MS have stopped developing Rtf so any current or future security issues or any problems at all will remain unfixed. MS claim that DocX is "Open" but seem to be making their implementation of it secret/proprietary. Now Adobe are promoting their Pdf format as the one format that can be read the same on any system. It is a proprietary format. It is free as long as they choose to keep it free but that could change anytime they like. Also if there are any problems or security issues then we have to rely on Adobe to fix them. Rtf to Pdf is a bit like "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". It does sort things out temporarily but locks you in further. Staying with Rtf makes more sense. Moving to Odf is the best bet = at least it really is native to a wide variety of programs and is even supported in MS Office now. Regards from Tom :) |
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i like bottom-quoting, so you know where to find my reply ;)
On 24-12-2011 17:10, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Hmm, i tried googling about this and some results suggested you might need to use > > lowriter > > instead of > > soffice.exe > or > libreoffice.exe > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > --- On Sat, 24/12/11, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: Luuk <[hidden email]> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF to PDF Command Line > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, 24 December, 2011, 11:49 > > On 24-12-2011 00:57, Miklos Vajna wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 07:16:04PM +0100, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> JodConverter is the tool to do it from the command-line >>> see: >>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted >> >> Or just do 'libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf foo.rtf'. >> > > just tested that (with LO3.3), and it should be: > libreoffice -headless -convert-to pdf foo.rtf > > > > indeed, in my previous post it said: 'libreoffice', but that should be: 'soffice' (or 'soffice.exe', but this last bit wont work on linux ;) ) Use of 'lowriter' is basiccally the same as 'soffice -writer "$@"' -- Luuk -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi Luuk
Thanks for clarifying that. It makes more sense now. So the command would be either soffice -writer --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf' or lowriter --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf' or on Windows a 3rd way of trying soffice.exe -writer --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf' or try the jod converter http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted Pdf does have advantages. People are unlikely to mess up a document by editing it because not many people have software that can edit them. Also documents looks the same on pretty much any system and print the same on pretty much any printer. Regards from Tom :) |
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On 26-12-2011 13:14, Tom wrote:
> Hi Luuk > > Thanks for clarifying that. It makes more sense now. So the command would > be either > > soffice -writer --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf' > > or > > lowriter --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf' > > or on Windows a 3rd way of trying > > soffice.exe -writer --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf' soffice --headless --convert-to pdf file-name.rtf The option '-writer' is not needed, because an RTF-file will be openend with writer per-default.... Is however 'strange' that the options on a Windows computer need two '--' (i.e. --headless), and on linux just need one '-' (i.e. -headless) Should this not be more standardized? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 26/12/2011 at 14:04, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Is however 'strange' that the options on a Windows computer need two > '--' (i.e. --headless), and on linux just need one '-' (i.e. -headless) > > Should this not be more standardized? As far as I remember, options for Windows command-line programs are delimited by slash (e.g. del /f some_file). So, either way, LO behavior is non-standard for Windows apps. But, on the other hand, most of Windows users does not use terminal mode - those who do perhaps have some experience with Linux shells as well. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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On 26-12-2011 14:31, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
> On 26/12/2011 at 14:04, Luuk <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Is however 'strange' that the options on a Windows computer need two >> '--' (i.e. --headless), and on linux just need one '-' (i.e. -headless) >> >> Should this not be more standardized? > > As far as I remember, options for Windows command-line programs are delimited > by slash (e.g. del /f some_file). > > So, either way, LO behavior is non-standard for Windows apps. But, on the > other hand, most of Windows users does not use terminal mode - those who do > perhaps have some experience with Linux shells as well. You are right, so there are 2 options: 1) Do it the Windows-way, and make LO use the '/' for this stuff. 2) Do it the LO-way, and make sure the parameters are accepted the same way on every implemented platform. -- Luuk -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Scott Jones |
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The on thing I noticed was if I have quickstarter loaded which keeps
soffice.bin & soffice.exe loaded in memory this command, /soffice --headless --convert-to PDF document.rtf/ doesn't create the PDF. If I exit quickstarter, which looks to close soffice.bin & soffice.exe, then execute the command the PDF is created. Is there a parameter I'm missing? Also can I specify an output path? On 12/26/2011 8:56 AM, Luuk wrote: On 26-12-2011 14:31, Miros?aw Zalewski wrote: > On 26/12/2011 at 14:04, Luuk<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Is however 'strange' that the options on a Windows computer need two >> '--' (i.e. --headless), and on linux just need one '-' (i.e. -headless) >> >> Should this not be more standardized? > As far as I remember, options for Windows command-line programs are delimited > by slash (e.g. del /f some_file). > > So, either way, LO behavior is non-standard for Windows apps. But, on the > other hand, most of Windows users does not use terminal mode - those who do > perhaps have some experience with Linux shells as well. You are right, so there are 2 options: 1) Do it the Windows-way, and make LO use the '/' for this stuff. 2) Do it the LO-way, and make sure the parameters are accepted the same way on every implemented platform. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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Also is there some requirement that would allow the installed version of
LO to work and not the portable? On 12/26/2011 8:56 AM, Luuk wrote: On 26-12-2011 14:31, Miros?aw Zalewski wrote: > On 26/12/2011 at 14:04, Luuk<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Is however 'strange' that the options on a Windows computer need two >> '--' (i.e. --headless), and on linux just need one '-' (i.e. -headless) >> >> Should this not be more standardized? > As far as I remember, options for Windows command-line programs are delimited > by slash (e.g. del /f some_file). > > So, either way, LO behavior is non-standard for Windows apps. But, on the > other hand, most of Windows users does not use terminal mode - those who do > perhaps have some experience with Linux shells as well. You are right, so there are 2 options: 1) Do it the Windows-way, and make LO use the '/' for this stuff. 2) Do it the LO-way, and make sure the parameters are accepted the same way on every implemented platform. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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Never mind on the portable question. It seems as if it was a bad
portable install. but I wild still like to know if I can redirect the PDF on output. On 12/26/2011 8:56 AM, Luuk wrote: On 26-12-2011 14:31, Miros?aw Zalewski wrote: > On 26/12/2011 at 14:04, Luuk<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Is however 'strange' that the options on a Windows computer need two >> '--' (i.e. --headless), and on linux just need one '-' (i.e. -headless) >> >> Should this not be more standardized? > As far as I remember, options for Windows command-line programs are delimited > by slash (e.g. del /f some_file). > > So, either way, LO behavior is non-standard for Windows apps. But, on the > other hand, most of Windows users does not use terminal mode - those who do > perhaps have some experience with Linux shells as well. You are right, so there are 2 options: 1) Do it the Windows-way, and make LO use the '/' for this stuff. 2) Do it the LO-way, and make sure the parameters are accepted the same way on every implemented platform. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted |
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