Some user feedback from SCaLE

> Howdy All,
>
> Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just short comments from show attendees.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
>
> more later,
>
> Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
>
>
>
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> Howdy All,
>
> Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just short comments from show attendees.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
>
> more later,
>
> Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
>
>
>

> Le 2011-02-27 11:51, [hidden email] a écrit :
>> Howdy All,
>>
>> Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just
>> short comments from show attendees.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
>>
>> more later,
>>
>> Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
>>
>>
>>
>
> These are AWESOME!!!! Keep doing this! If you have anyone from the
> Hispanic community as well or from any other NL groups at all.
>
> You are obviously informing people that this could be used for promo
> material, right?
>
> We could certainly work this into some awesome advertising clips.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc
>
>

> Le 2011-02-27 22:14, Marc Paré a écrit :
>> Le 2011-02-27 11:51, [hidden email] a écrit :
>>> Howdy All,
>>>
>>> Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just
>>> short comments from show attendees.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
>>>
>>> more later,
>>>
>>> Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> These are AWESOME!!!! Keep doing this! If you have anyone from the
>> Hispanic community as well or from any other NL groups at all.
>>
>> You are obviously informing people that this could be used for promo
>> material, right?
>>
>> We could certainly work this into some awesome advertising clips.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>
> BTW ... if you could get some female and teen contribution that would be
> also great. Family shots with a person from the family contributing
> their opinion too!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc

> Drew was fantastic with the videos. It was really informal, he just
> asked people to say whatever they wanted about LibreOffice. He took some
> more video today; I think he said he'd post those tonight.
>
> Good suggestions about getting different demographics -- SCaLE is over
> now, so it'll have to wait to the next venue. Drew worked with the
> demographic attending which, alas, is narrower than society at large.
>
> ----Jon
>

> Le 2011-02-27 11:51, [hidden email] a écrit :
> > Howdy All,
> >
> > Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just short comments from show attendees.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
> >
> > more later,
> >
> > Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
> >
> >
> >
>
> These are AWESOME!!!! Keep doing this! If you have anyone from the
> Hispanic community as well or from any other NL groups at all.
>
> You are obviously informing people that this could be used for promo
> material, right?

> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 22:14 -0500, Marc Paré wrote:
>> Le 2011-02-27 11:51, [hidden email] a écrit :
>>> Howdy All,
>>>
>>> Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just short comments from show attendees.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
>>>
>>> more later,
>>>
>>> Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> These are AWESOME!!!! Keep doing this! If you have anyone from the
>> Hispanic community as well or from any other NL groups at all.
>>
>> You are obviously informing people that this could be used for promo
>> material, right?
>
> Yes - I managed to work that in, each person - This is going on YouTube
> and will be used for Marketing purposes. This is OK with you?
>
> If they weren't comfortable with that, and many were not, no video, it
> was that straight forward and simple. I didn't keep a ticker but
> anecdotally I'd say 1 - 2 folks said, nope not really comfortable to do
> that, for each one that enthusiastically (and they were) said yes.
>
> So a few more from Sunday, it was much slower then Saturday, traffic
> wise, although I think we had longer conversations, including some user
> support, as in hey how do I, type questions.
>
> And here are the raw files:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoJUGk3r3g
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkGpMbFtQRQ
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrokZaODDRk
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUgE8A4T8jU
>
>
>
> Otherwise there are a number of Photos taken by all of us that will find
> there way to the wiki and private blogs over the next day or two.
>
> Will write up text on the Good, the Bad and the Ugly (just to make a
> phrase not a hint) in the day time tomorrow - it was a long flight and
> ride home today.
>
> Thanks
>
> Drew
>
>

> Le 2011-03-01 00:39, drew a écrit :
>> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 22:14 -0500, Marc Paré wrote:
>>> Le 2011-02-27 11:51, [hidden email] a écrit :
>>>> Howdy All,
>>>>
>>>> Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just
>>>> short comments from show attendees.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yse5zUsWQtA
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvUuE7zHtk
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1yc7iS1TI
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AKxMo0O5gQ
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzrAYAYg6U
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8Dnn7A9Vc
>>>>
>>>> more later,
>>>>
>>>> Drew, Andy, Jeff and Jon...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> These are AWESOME!!!! Keep doing this! If you have anyone from the
>>> Hispanic community as well or from any other NL groups at all.
>>>
>>> You are obviously informing people that this could be used for promo
>>> material, right?
>>
>> Yes - I managed to work that in, each person - This is going on YouTube
>> and will be used for Marketing purposes. This is OK with you?
>>
>> If they weren't comfortable with that, and many were not, no video, it
>> was that straight forward and simple. I didn't keep a ticker but
>> anecdotally I'd say 1 - 2 folks said, nope not really comfortable to do
>> that, for each one that enthusiastically (and they were) said yes.
>>
>> So a few more from Sunday, it was much slower then Saturday, traffic
>> wise, although I think we had longer conversations, including some user
>> support, as in hey how do I, type questions.
>>
>> And here are the raw files:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoJUGk3r3g
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkGpMbFtQRQ
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrokZaODDRk
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUgE8A4T8jU
>>
>>
>>
>> Otherwise there are a number of Photos taken by all of us that will find
>> there way to the wiki and private blogs over the next day or two.
>>
>> Will write up text on the Good, the Bad and the Ugly (just to make a
>> phrase not a hint) in the day time tomorrow - it was a long flight and
>> ride home today.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for all of this. All of our thanks as well to the LibreOffice
> SCALE conference team.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc

> On 02/27/2011 11:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > Howdy All,
> >
> > Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just short comments from show attendees.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com
> [...]
>
> TLDR; Please don't push videos to YouTube only, at least also upload to
> archive.org for accessibility and free formats availability. Put a clear
> license on any material.
>
> Hi Drew, all,
>
> I'm my opinion YouTube's ToS are incompatible with several core values
> of software freedom and the LibreOffice project specifically:
> http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
>
> In the spirit of coherence with the LibreOffice project (ie. free, open
> formats) and accessibility of such files, can we *not* upload them
> *exclusively* to YouTube ? To me this is very much the equivalent of
> publishing software under a non-free license, without its source code. I
> see there's already one message in this thread asking how to get offline
> versions of such videos.
>
> I've raised this concern before, and wrote a guide on how to upload
> videos to archive.org:
> http://www.wikihow.com/Upload-Videos-to-Archive.Org-and-Make-Them-Available-in-Free%2C-Open-Formats
>
> I must emphasize I can't force anyone not to upload to YouTube only, but
> by doing so you're sending a confusing message - that you and TDF and/or
> any of the marketing team members, specially when doing so at an event,
> agree to YouTube's ToS. It's also not ideal for anyone wanting to remix
> / reuse such videos.
>
> With such limited resources any and all material we produce should
> ideally have a clear license, include source files on a server where ToS
> permit its free, unlimited, unrestricted use.
>
> I don't mean to come across harsh, and I believe 99% of the time there's
> only good intentions when sharing via YouTube but we need to get smarter
> at this ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca
> de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/
> ~
> Fabián Rodríguez
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab
>
>

>
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 09:39 -0500, Fabián Rodríguez wrote:
> > On 02/27/2011 11:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > > Howdy All,
> > >
> > > Just uploaded some yesterdays videos - not edited, these are just short comments from show attendees.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com
> > [...]
> >
> > TLDR; Please don't push videos to YouTube only, at least also upload to
> > archive.org for accessibility and free formats availability. Put a clear
> > license on any material.
> >
> > Hi Drew, all,
> >
> > I'm my opinion YouTube's ToS are incompatible with several core values
> > of software freedom and the LibreOffice project specifically:
> > http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
> >
> > In the spirit of coherence with the LibreOffice project (ie. free, open
> > formats) and accessibility of such files, can we *not* upload them
> > *exclusively* to YouTube ? To me this is very much the equivalent of
> > publishing software under a non-free license, without its source code. I
> > see there's already one message in this thread asking how to get offline
> > versions of such videos.
> >
> > I've raised this concern before, and wrote a guide on how to upload
> > videos to archive.org:
> > http://www.wikihow.com/Upload-Videos-to-Archive.Org-and-Make-Them-Available-in-Free%2C-Open-Formats
> >
> > I must emphasize I can't force anyone not to upload to YouTube only, but
> > by doing so you're sending a confusing message - that you and TDF and/or
> > any of the marketing team members, specially when doing so at an event,
> > agree to YouTube's ToS. It's also not ideal for anyone wanting to remix
> > / reuse such videos.
> >
> > With such limited resources any and all material we produce should
> > ideally have a clear license, include source files on a server where ToS
> > permit its free, unlimited, unrestricted use.
> >
> > I don't mean to come across harsh, and I believe 99% of the time there's
> > only good intentions when sharing via YouTube but we need to get smarter
> > at this ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca
> > de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/
> > ~
> > Fabián Rodríguez
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab
> >
> >
>
>
>

> Le 03/03/11 15:15, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
>> Is there a way to get a copy of these video files from YouTube to a
>> Ubuntu system, at this time?
>> I would love to have them on my system for reference without needing to
>> go to YouTube.
>
> There is an extension for Firefox called DownloadHelper that allows you
> to do this. The file is saved as FLV. Additionally, if you have FFMPEG
> installed, DownloadHelper can convert the file on the fly to another format.
>
>
> Alex

> On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 09:15 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
> Productions wrote:
>> On 03/01/2011 10:38 AM, drew wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 10:13 -0500, drew wrote:
>>>> You know .... whatever - it was put to youtube - it doesn't say - hey I
>>>> will not make it available any other way.
>>>>
>>>> But yeah, that's all good stuff...very FSF..good for you.
>>> and us actually - the files will be converted to OGV for download, might
>>> fit on the wiki.
> Yes - well I want to edit these some, but here they are un-edited,
> rendered in Vorbis format: [note I gave them little names vs numbers and
> these are not in same order as on youtube]
>
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/I_absolutely_support_Libo.ogv
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/Love_the_OSx_exp.ogv
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/Two_months_ago.ogv
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/mac_user_2.ogv
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/casual_user.ogv
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/600Lb_gorilla.ogv

> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/Its_fantastic.ogv
>
> You can copy these then, but I would rather you didn't just yet.
> They will stream from this server, BTW, and I will leave those files in
> that spot for a while if it helps.
>
> Here is a work in progress - PLEASE DO NOT COPY this one YET-
> This is what I would like to do with a few (3 or 4) separates and maybe
> one collage - BUT need to do this via the design folks and I'm they may
> change the opening and closing but at some point this style is what I
> would rather put up to the permanent repository(s)
>
> http://baseanswers.com/libo/scale_vids/TDF_Love_the_OSx_exp_720p.ogv
>
> So - that one file above will likely not last long at that address, just
> long enough to be reviewed by someone...
>
> thanks
>
> Drew
>
>
>