> Hi
>
> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 21:29 -0400, Don Myers wrote:
>
>> Reply below:
>>
>> On 09/07/2011 08:02 PM, NoOp wrote:
>>> For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please
>>> consider bottom posting with interspersed replies.
>>>
>>> I realiz(s)e that the existing:
>>>
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/>>> doesn't specifically clarify anything with regards to top/bottom
>>> posting. However at the bottom of each mail on this list is a link to:
>>>
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette>>> That page doesn't help much either, but it /does/ include a link to:
>>>
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>>> which includes this bit:
>>>
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.3>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> 2.3 Why should I place my response below the quoted text?
>>>
>>> Usually, the reading-flow is from left to right and from top to bottom,
>>> and people expect a chronological sequence similar to this. Especially
>>> people who are reading a lot of articles (and who therefore would
>>> qualify as the ideal person to answer your question) appreciate it if
>>> they can read at first the text to which you are referring. The quoted
>>> text is some kind of help to remember the topic, which of course will
>>> not work, if you place the quoted text below your response.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, that's the standard. This may sound as a weak argument, but
>>> since people are not used to reading the other way around, they have no
>>> idea what you are referring to and have to go back and forth between the
>>> referenced articles, have to jump between different articles and so on.
>>> In short - reading the article becomes more and more difficult - for
>>> people who read many articles it is reason enough to skip the entire
>>> article, if the context is not obvious.
>>>
>>> And besides: doesn't it look stupid to first get the answer and then see
>>> the question? (Aside from Jeopardy, of course.)
>>>
>>> Furthermore, you (yes: You) save a lot of time using this way of
>>> quoting: You do not need to repeat what the person you refer to wrote,
>>> in order to show the context. You just place your comment after the text
>>> you wish to comment upon, and everybody immediately knows what you refer
>>> to. Also, you realize which text you are *not* responding to and can
>>> delete these parts.
>>>
>>> So: using this technique you save time, your readers don't have to waste
>>> time, you save bandwidth and disk-space. Isn't it great what you can
>>> achieve by such simple means?
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> and that seems to imply that such posting styles on this list are the
>>> desired guideline.
>>>
>>> Samples of similar on other lists:
>>>
>>>
http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html>>> <quote>
>>> Top-posting vs bottom-posting.
>>>
>>> Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it
>>> the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates
>>> about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the
>>> forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with
>>> trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is
>>> equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place
>>> your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon.
>>> The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists>>> <quote>
>>> Proper quoting:
>>>
>>> Proper quoting is very important on mailing lists, to ensure that it is
>>> easy to follow the conversation. There are four fundamental rules:
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> Write your email underneath the email which you are replying to.
>>> ...
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> and even:
>>>
http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html>>> <quote>
>>> Replying
>>> When replying to other people it is customary to intersperse your
>>> response with their questions, both so you can answer the actual
>>> question that was asked, and so everyone else has some idea what you are
>>> talking about. It is also customary to limit your quoting to the minimum
>>> possible to get your point across. Take the time to be considerate,
>>> remember those subscribers who have slow, expensive connections.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> Note: that last is liable to go away given the recent
>>> transition/announcements by Apache regarding mail lists... but it's
>>> worth mentioning anyway.
>>>
>>> Eventually I hope that LO will actually include a link to general
>>> posting guidelines on the
>>> <
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/> page with complete
>>> posting guidelines. Even if the final consensus is to only top post...
>>> at least will help with consistancy on this (users), and the other LO lists.
>>>
>>> Added Note: I've set the 'Followup-to' on this message to the discuss
>>> list as I think that is more the appropriate location for continued
>>> discussion of the issue. But I posted here initially on the users list
>>> as this is the list that really needs the guidelines (IMO) the most.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I will respect your wishes about posting at the bottom. I live in the
>> US. I do a lot of work e-mails in my job, and receive a lot of work
>> e-mails. I never receive any e-mails where people reply to me at the
>> bottom. The reply is always at the top. I never understood why
>> Thunderbird had the default to reply at the bottom when Thunderbird came
>> out. It was backwards!!!!!! So I have always changed the default on
>> every system I've installed it on. Maybe there are different customs in
>> different countries.
>>
>> Don
> The real reason is on a list one may be joining the thread late and
> needs to know what has been discussed. Often business emails are just
> written conversations between people. Thus top posting works there very
> well.
>
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