[libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

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[libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

Dear LibreOffice and Orca folks,

I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some
difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at
start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left or
right arrow.

I've investigated a little bit on Accerciser and It seems that
LibreOffice sends information but no event "page change" and maybe a
wrong accessibility tree for slide show mode.
Could someone explain what me  LibreOffice does wrong on the slide show
mode ?

When we switch between pages, what do you want to be announced by Orca ?

Best regards.

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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

Hi Alex,
Le 20/07/2016 à 11:57, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
> Dear LibreOffice and Orca folks,
>
> I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some
> difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at
> start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left or
> right arrow.

Did you search for an existing bug on this and/or did you fill a bug?
>
> I've investigated a little bit on Accerciser and It seems that
> LibreOffice sends information but no event "page change" and maybe a
> wrong accessibility tree for slide show mode.
> Could someone explain what me  LibreOffice does wrong on the slide show
> mode ?
>
> When we switch between pages, what do you want to be announced by Orca ?

Are you willing to fix the bug? in that case, the best list to discuss
about Orca's feedback should be UX/design list.

Cheers
Sophie

It's up to you to help
>
> Best regards.
>


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RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

Hi, Alex,

I have never been able to use the slideshow mode effectively.  I always had to export the slide shows to html and read it with a browser.  Impress is very difficult to use with Orca and has been this way since forever.  You sound like you may have a better idea of why it doesn't work well than most people I've encountered who run against this difficulty.  Looks like filing a bug is the way to go although I've been using some form of Open Office/Libreoffice since 2010 and the problem was well-known and long-standing even six years ago.  I would be flabbergasted to find out that absolutely no one who works with its accessibility was aware of the issue and that a bug hadn't been already filed somewhere.  This is not new, folks.

Alex M


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From: Sophie [mailto:[hidden email]]
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

Hi Alex,
Le 20/07/2016 à 11:57, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
> Dear LibreOffice and Orca folks,
>
> I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some
> difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at
> start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left
> or right arrow.

Did you search for an existing bug on this and/or did you fill a bug?
>
> I've investigated a little bit on Accerciser and It seems that
> LibreOffice sends information but no event "page change" and maybe a
> wrong accessibility tree for slide show mode.
> Could someone explain what me  LibreOffice does wrong on the slide
> show mode ?
>
> When we switch between pages, what do you want to be announced by Orca ?

Are you willing to fix the bug? in that case, the best list to discuss about Orca's feedback should be UX/design list.

Cheers
Sophie

It's up to you to help
>
> Best regards.
>


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Alex ARNAUD-3 Alex ARNAUD-3
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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

In reply to this post by sophi
Le 21/07/2016 à 14:04, Sophie a écrit :
> Hi Alex,
Hi Sophie
> Le 20/07/2016 à 11:57, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
>> sDear LibreOffice and Orca folks,
>>
>> I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some
>> difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at
>> start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left or
>> right arrow.
> Did you search for an existing bug on this and/or did you fill a bug?
I've found no bugs about that but I wait the answer of  AT-SPI2 expert
to know if the problem is LibreOffice or Orca.

Best regards.

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Visual-Impairment Project Manager
Hypra - "Humanizing technology"


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