[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

Dear Friends of FLOSS i18n/L10n,

I know this is off-topic for this list, but I assume many of you are also
friends of TuxPaint L10n (or would be if you thought about it for a
minute).  TuxPaint developer Bill Kendrick has announced he is "gearing up
for" the first new release in three years in this very mature software and
I think it should be seen as a golden opportunity for a L10n sprint to
maximize the coverage in as many languages as possible.

If anyone wants a Pootle-hosted copy of tuxpaint.po, tuxpaint-stamps.po or
tuxpaint-config.po PO files, let me know and I'll set it up on the Sugar
Labs Pootle instance (downloading any partially complete files from the
canonical site).

http://translate.sugarlabs.org

Otherwise follow Bill's directions below.

cjl


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bill Kendrick <[hidden email]>
Date: Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:28 PM
Subject: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates
To: Tux Paint I18N <[hidden email]>



I'm finally gearing up to release a new Tux Paint (0.9.23),
which admittedly won't have much in the way of new features
compared to 0.9.22 from three years ago.

That said, if you're out here and interested in updating
your translations (of any part of the project, or the website),
please do so!

  http://tuxpaint.org/help/po/

(The POT files are available via that page, as well)


If you've got a SourceForge account, and are familiar with Git,
you can now use it to commit your updates.  (We have moved away
from CVS, finally.)

For more info, start here:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/source/git/


Thanks in advance!

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

On 03/12/17 17:46, Chris Leonard wrote:
> I know this is off-topic for this list, but I assume many of you are also

Well, I know this is off-topic for this list,
but I assume many of you are also wishing all
kids of the world well, right?

So, is this such a good idea to hand kids a
computer with painting application? Handling the
motorics of real-world
painting/sculpting/younameit develops the brain
in specific areas.

Painting application of the kind I see on app's
site, with all respect to author's work and
intentions, does not. "Ages 3 to 12", for pete's
sake!!

Shudder.

I should've cross-post this, but I rather won't.

-Yury

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

The idea of handing a kid 'from 3 to 12'
something like this is the sole reason for
'shuddering'.

Of course, such outbursts as mine aren't really
proper, so my apologies, all.

-Yury

On 04/12/17 15:46, Tom Davies wrote:
> I haven't looked into it much so I don't know
...

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

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Chris,

I notice that many translations existent in the source code repository are
not found in the Pootle instance.  E.g.: tuxpaint-stamps (in
https://git.code.sf.net/p/tuxpaint/tuxpaint-stamps) have many almost
complete translations, while in Sugar Labs' Pootle instance only 4
languages received translation.

IMHO it would be better to synchronize repository and Pootle translations
before calling out for translation in the web platform.

Can you please check that?

Best regards,
Rafael Fontenelle

2017-12-03 12:46 GMT-02:00 Chris Leonard <[hidden email]>:

> Dear Friends of FLOSS i18n/L10n,
>
> I know this is off-topic for this list, but I assume many of you are also
> friends of TuxPaint L10n (or would be if you thought about it for a
> minute).  TuxPaint developer Bill Kendrick has announced he is "gearing up
> for" the first new release in three years in this very mature software and
> I think it should be seen as a golden opportunity for a L10n sprint to
> maximize the coverage in as many languages as possible.
>
> If anyone wants a Pootle-hosted copy of tuxpaint.po, tuxpaint-stamps.po or
> tuxpaint-config.po PO files, let me know and I'll set it up on the Sugar
> Labs Pootle instance (downloading any partially complete files from the
> canonical site).
>
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org
>
> Otherwise follow Bill's directions below.
>
> cjl
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bill Kendrick <[hidden email]>
> Date: Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:28 PM
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates
> To: Tux Paint I18N <[hidden email]>
>
>
>
> I'm finally gearing up to release a new Tux Paint (0.9.23),
> which admittedly won't have much in the way of new features
> compared to 0.9.22 from three years ago.
>
> That said, if you're out here and interested in updating
> your translations (of any part of the project, or the website),
> please do so!
>
>   http://tuxpaint.org/help/po/
>
> (The POT files are available via that page, as well)
>
>
> If you've got a SourceForge account, and are familiar with Git,
> you can now use it to commit your updates.  (We have moved away
> from CVS, finally.)
>
> For more info, start here:
>
>   http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/source/git/
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> -bill!
> Sent from my computer
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
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> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

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On 12/04/2017 01:20 PM, Yury Tarasievich wrote:
> The idea of handing a kid 'from 3 to 12' something like this is the sole
> reason for 'shuddering'.

Your shuddering is understandable.

However, remember that in the United States, the schools no longer teach
students handwriting.(One has to know how to read and write, in order to
be accepted into first grade --- the class which historically has taught
one how to read and write.)  Drawing is classified as "art", and is only
taught if their is enough time at the end of the quarter to squeeze it
in, and either the teacher, or the parents provide the requisite art
materials, at their expense. The school board won't pay for them,
because it lacks the funds to do so.

As such, if a kid learns to draw on a computer, there are one step ahead
of those who failed to learn to draw on a computer.

jonathon

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates

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Rafaele,

In general, TuxPaint L10n is an off-line process directly into POT files or
PO files from the TuxPaint site.   http://tuxpaint.org/help/po/

Sugar Labs is an unrelated project, of which I am Translation Team
Coordinator, running a Pootle server.  TuxPaint and Sugar Labs have no
formal connection, we are just FLOSS friends-with-benefits.  For example,
Bill delayed the last release of TuxPaint so my Armenian team could finish
before the release, all the way back in 2012, we hosted a local copy of the
TuxPaint PO file for our Samoan team to complete and then we upstreamed it
to the TuxPaint site.   Both projects have an strong interest in providing
great software in as many languages as possible, and so from time to time,
I collaborate informally with Bill Kendrick on a TuxPaint L10n sprint,
sometimes one language at a time, and sometimes like now, as many as
possible.

I respect the TuxPaint's team position that http://tuxpaint.org/help/po/ is
the canonical home of TuxPaint L10n.  I will locally host new languages on
my Pootle server and then upstream their work, typically removing the
completed PO files from my Pootle instance afterwards to leave no confusion
about where the canonical home of TuxPaint L10n really rexists.

Tell me what TuxPaint PO file you want in what language and I'll set it up
on Sugar Labs Pootle until it's done and upstreamed.  Bill and I are
conspiring to improve TuxPaint documentation i18n/L10n right now and we'll
send another blast out if we find a good solution to make it easier for
localizers.  The main thing I don't want to do is confuse localizers about
where the canonical TuxPaint L10n site resides.

Does that make sense to you?

cjl


On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Rafael Fontenelle <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I notice that many translations existent in the source code repository are
> not found in the Pootle instance..  E.g.: tuxpaint-stamps (in
> https://git.code.sf.net/p/tuxpaint/tuxpaint-stamps) have many almost
> complete translations, while in Sugar Labs' Pootle instance only 4
> languages received translation.
>
> IMHO it would be better to synchronize repository and Pootle translations
> before calling out for translation in the web platform.
>
> Can you please check that?
>
> Best regards,
> Rafael Fontenelle
>
> 2017-12-03 12:46 GMT-02:00 Chris Leonard <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Dear Friends of FLOSS i18n/L10n,
>>
>> I know this is off-topic for this list, but I assume many of you are also
>> friends of TuxPaint L10n (or would be if you thought about it for a
>> minute).  TuxPaint developer Bill Kendrick has announced he is "gearing up
>> for" the first new release in three years in this very mature software and
>> I think it should be seen as a golden opportunity for a L10n sprint to
>> maximize the coverage in as many languages as possible.
>>
>> If anyone wants a Pootle-hosted copy of tuxpaint.po, tuxpaint-stamps.po
>> or tuxpaint-config.po PO files, let me know and I'll set it up on the Sugar
>> Labs Pootle instance (downloading any partially complete files from the
>> canonical site).
>>
>> http://translate.sugarlabs.org
>>
>> Otherwise follow Bill's directions below.
>>
>> cjl
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bill Kendrick <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:28 PM
>> Subject: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Call for translation updates
>> To: Tux Paint I18N <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm finally gearing up to release a new Tux Paint (0.9.23),
>> which admittedly won't have much in the way of new features
>> compared to 0.9.22 from three years ago.
>>
>> That said, if you're out here and interested in updating
>> your translations (of any part of the project, or the website),
>> please do so!
>>
>>   http://tuxpaint.org/help/po/
>>
>> (The POT files are available via that page, as well)
>>
>>
>> If you've got a SourceForge account, and are familiar with Git,
>> you can now use it to commit your updates.  (We have moved away
>> from CVS, finally.)
>>
>> For more info, start here:
>>
>>   http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/source/git/
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> --
>> -bill!
>> Sent from my computer
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------
>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
>>
>>
>

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