writer pages are driving me crazy

> First I wanted to know why the discussion was dead on the design team. was
> not a month ago that I was getting an email every day. I don't know.
>
>
> Any way I have been using Libre Writer for school and noteist something that
> drives me crazy.  Now its kinda stupid but what ever.  Ok when you zoom in
> and out the page does something weird.
>
> here is writer at 20% zoom.
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077660429779506
>
> here it is at 47% zoom.
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077673434358818
>
> hereit is at 100% zoom.
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077692442988322
>
> at 135%
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646081904615710946
>
> 140%
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077727070019554
>
> now heres what drives me crazy starting at 145% zoom it goes off center.
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077750619409378
>
> 150%
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077767556759410
>
> 579%
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077783143551634
>
> 600%
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077800221094898
>
>
> why does LibreOffice writer even have a 600% zoom. I don't see a reason to
> have more than 200% to 300% zoom.  I can see it in an art program like draw,
> GIMP, inkscape but not a word processor. why does this not center, I like to
> keep it at 145% so that it is the biggest size that it can be and I can
> still see the hole page left to right.
>
> I don't know maybe this is not that big a deal, M$ Word$ does it to.  what
> do you think.
>

> Andrew
>
> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:37 -0400, Andrew Pullins wrote:
>
> > First I wanted to know why the discussion was dead on the design team.
> was
> > not a month ago that I was getting an email every day. I don't know.
> >
> >
> > Any way I have been using Libre Writer for school and noteist something
> that
> > drives me crazy.  Now its kinda stupid but what ever.  Ok when you zoom
> in
> > and out the page does something weird.
> >
> > here is writer at 20% zoom.
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077660429779506
> >
> > here it is at 47% zoom.
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077673434358818
> >
> > hereit is at 100% zoom.
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077692442988322
> >
> > at 135%
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646081904615710946
> >
> > 140%
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077727070019554
> >
> > now heres what drives me crazy starting at 145% zoom it goes off center.
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077750619409378
> >
> > 150%
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077767556759410
> >
> > 579%
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077783143551634
> >
> > 600%
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113439282950133616549/LibrePage?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyhteS-trmFZQ#5646077800221094898
> >
> >
> > why does LibreOffice writer even have a 600% zoom. I don't see a reason
> to
> > have more than 200% to 300% zoom.  I can see it in an art program like
> draw,
> > GIMP, inkscape but not a word processor. why does this not center, I like
> to
> > keep it at 145% so that it is the biggest size that it can be and I can
> > still see the hole page left to right.
> >
> > I don't know maybe this is not that big a deal, M$ Word$ does it to.
>  what
> > do you think.
> >
>
> I guess is that all the main parts use the same scaling engine and the
> scaling factors are determined by the smallest anyone part needs and
> similarly for the largest.
>
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> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:37 -0400, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> > why does LibreOffice writer even have a 600% zoom. I don't see a reason
> to
> > have more than 200% to 300% zoom.  I can see it in an art program like
> draw,
> > GIMP, inkscape but not a word processor. why does this not center, I like
> to
> > keep it at 145% so that it is the biggest size that it can be and I can
> > still see the hole page left to right.
>
> You probably don't need that big a zoom, but at least I do need it when
> I'm hacking on some Writer painting code to check that things are
> properly aligned and displayed.
>
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> Cédric Bosdonnat
> LibreOffice hacker
> http://documentfoundation.org
> OOo Eclipse Integration developer
> http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr
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> well I can kinda see how some one could use it but I just wanted to talk
> about the centering mostly. like I said it is stupid.
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Cedric Bosdonnat<
> [hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:37 -0400, Andrew Pullins wrote:
>>> why does LibreOffice writer even have a 600% zoom. I don't see a reason
>> to
>>> have more than 200% to 300% zoom.  I can see it in an art program like
>> draw,
>>> GIMP, inkscape but not a word processor. why does this not center, I like
>> to
>>> keep it at 145% so that it is the biggest size that it can be and I can
>>> still see the hole page left to right.
>> You probably don't need that big a zoom, but at least I do need it when
>> I'm hacking on some Writer painting code to check that things are
>> properly aligned and displayed.
>>
>> --
>> Cédric Bosdonnat
>> LibreOffice hacker
>> http://documentfoundation.org
>> OOo Eclipse Integration developer
>> http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr
>>
>>
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> I agree with Andrew. I have faced this 'issue' too. In my case, this
> happens when I am moving back and forth between my laptop and desktop.
> My desktop has a 24 inch monitor and when I am working on a document, I
> zoom in to about 150% there. When I want to work on the same document on
> my laptop that has a samller screen, LibO remembers (rightfully so) that
> the zoom level for the document is 150% but left aligns the page showing
> empty margins while center aligning the page would still be able to
> display the contents properly.
>
> I hope someone could shed light on this behavior - is this an expected
> one? a designed feature, or a bug that needs fixing?

> On 08/29/2011 01:39 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> > well I can kinda see how some one could use it but I just wanted to talk
> > about the centering mostly. like I said it is stupid.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Cedric Bosdonnat<
> > [hidden email]>  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:37 -0400, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> >>> why does LibreOffice writer even have a 600% zoom. I don't see a reason
> >> to
> >>> have more than 200% to 300% zoom.  I can see it in an art program like
> >> draw,
> >>> GIMP, inkscape but not a word processor. why does this not center, I like
> >> to
> >>> keep it at 145% so that it is the biggest size that it can be and I can
> >>> still see the hole page left to right.
> >> You probably don't need that big a zoom, but at least I do need it when
> >> I'm hacking on some Writer painting code to check that things are
> >> properly aligned and displayed.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cédric Bosdonnat
> >> LibreOffice hacker
> >> http://documentfoundation.org
> >> OOo Eclipse Integration developer
> >> http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr
> >>
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> Hi all!
>
> Sorry for commenting a bit late, but my vacation just ended ... so I'm
> back and crawling through my mails (during the last days).
>
> Am Montag, den 29.08.2011, 07:23 -0700 schrieb Vamsi Kodali:
>> I agree with Andrew. I have faced this 'issue' too. In my case, this
>> happens when I am moving back and forth between my laptop and desktop.
>> My desktop has a 24 inch monitor and when I am working on a document, I
>> zoom in to about 150% there. When I want to work on the same document on
>> my laptop that has a samller screen, LibO remembers (rightfully so) that
>> the zoom level for the document is 150% but left aligns the page showing
>> empty margins while center aligning the page would still be able to
>> display the contents properly.
>>
>> I hope someone could shed light on this behavior - is this an expected
>> one? a designed feature, or a bug that needs fixing?
>
> Well, personally I think that is another issue - there are some similar
> problems that drive people drive nuts with regard to multi-page views.
>
> Andrew, there may be issues with the zoom slider. If done properly,
> there could even be some difference between "setting the zoom via the
> slider" (limiting the default zoom level) and "setting it via number
> entry" (providing a larger zoom range).
>
> For those who might work on improvement proposals, here is an
> (extensive) list of what we've collected in the OOo UX team. If some
> tiny issues could be resolved (e.g. by providing a good description how
> it should work), then this would be very helpful:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Zoom_Slider#Design_and_User_Experience_issues
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
>
>
>> On 08/29/2011 01:39 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
>>> well I can kinda see how some one could use it but I just wanted to talk
>>> about the centering mostly. like I said it is stupid.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Cedric Bosdonnat<
>>> [hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:37 -0400, Andrew Pullins wrote:
>>>>> why does LibreOffice writer even have a 600% zoom. I don't see a reason
>>>> to
>>>>> have more than 200% to 300% zoom.  I can see it in an art program like
>>>> draw,
>>>>> GIMP, inkscape but not a word processor. why does this not center, I like
>>>> to
>>>>> keep it at 145% so that it is the biggest size that it can be and I can
>>>>> still see the hole page left to right.
>>>> You probably don't need that big a zoom, but at least I do need it when
>>>> I'm hacking on some Writer painting code to check that things are
>>>> properly aligned and displayed.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cédric Bosdonnat
>>>> LibreOffice hacker
>>>> http://documentfoundation.org
>>>> OOo Eclipse Integration developer
>>>> http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr
>>>>
>>>>
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